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Dating a Nine

Regular readers will have noticed the lack of posts in the last month. Well, dear readers, thank you for asking. I am alive and well. In particular, I was in a month-long trip with a girl. She flew all the way from a different continent just to meet me. This is after a 6-month-long absence since we last saw each other in person. Of course, a strong text game was a factor in this. However, the topic of today is the value of the girl. A rare glimpse into the reality of the upper tier of women.

When I had met her, she was an 8. Tall, curvy, and really knows how to dress. In Europe, however, she was a 9. These are some big claims, so let’s analyze it more. The attractiveness of the girl is really a subjective topic. Specifically, it is a long-standing tradition that a girl gains 1 point of hotness the moment your dick goes into her. All in all, the topic is a mess. To circumvent this, the early daygamers built a system based on the status a girl gives you.

  • For 5 and lower your dick doesn’t go up
  • A 6 is a girl you don’t show around
  • A 7 is a neutral feeling carrying her around
  • At 8 you are proud to show her around
  • At 9 people are checking her (… and you) constantly when you carry her around

I always rated girls like this, so now my claim that “she became a 9 when she came to Europe” comes from her exotic appearance. Everyone, and I mean everyone, was checking us out.


The trip lasted for a full month, and I got to see her reaction to attention firsthand. And the “pick up” attempts on her. For the last part, people should really not be worried about others hitting on their girls. Once a girl is strongly into your reality, she will never shop around. This will last as long as your ID and frame control are on point. Girls don’t cheat without giving ample signals about it. That is an EvoPsych myth, probably based on observing sexless marriages and Betas.

With this out of the way, let’s establish some aspects particular to the girl before attempting to generalise. This girl is a frame control addict. Of course, in the sense of constant shit tests. We are talking in a 24/7 barrage. A full artillery line-up. A constant Mongol horde attack. Roissy (Heartiste) has described something close to this by the “Lawyer chick”. This has nothing to do with her “value”; it has to do with her sex drive. We are talking about a sex addict here. The shit tests were aimed at her getting fucked. The cycle goes like this:

  • Cause drama
  • Get wet from masterful frame control (i.e. shit test handling)
  • Get sex

All in all, we are talking 4 times per day, every day. I had to start turning her down. I just couldn’t keep up.

To understand the dynamics, read “Practical Female for the Practical Man”. The book is a must in my opinion, and he analyzes the matrix of sex drive/confidence and its behavioral effects. My last remark here is that this girl is not a “slut”. She is a sex addict after she finds a suitable guy. Not ANY guy. Seasoned players should have noticed the effect they have on their girls’ sex drive. Competent Game is really like a switch turning her on.

Warning !! The paragraph above reads easy. But it’s a common pitfall to associate shit tests with things going downhill. In this case, the shit test was part of the experience. This girl operates like that. Imagine coming to a situation like this with the (mostly) American frame, “this is me, and if people don’t like it, they can f* off”. The tough guy with values mentality. This is not Game, Game is reacting to the situation strategically and adapting to the girl, not the other way. The latter makes the path to sex always more limited, essentially filtering.

With that being said, a girl like this is not LTR material. Not even a mini one at that. Enjoy her when the sex is hot. Keep her at a distance when your frame starts waning. And always, always maintain other options. This is a case where you need to maintain your right to walk away when she becomes unbearable.

Let me now state my observations on her reality.


Attention

Attention is constant. Really attractive girls are indeed first-class citizens. Guys and girls treat them differently. They are both intimidated by her. She doesn’t get free stuff falling on her head. But if she were to ask for anything, she would hardly get a No.

However, it doesn’t matter to her. The only thing she cared about was me and/or other people in the context of our relationship. She is either used to attention, or my Game was that good. I think the former is more likely. It follows the hedonism fallacy, “people get used to everything eventually, no matter how good”. The long-known PUA maxim holds true. Attention and quality attention are not the same thing to girls.

An exaggeration of the above rule is that we are only competing with 5-10% of guys for access to pussy. We are competing with Alphas and naturals only. Betas and Omegas could just be statues as far as competition goes. They will get a post-wall wife and/or a drunk random lay, but that’s it. I got to experience this first hand and now I really believe it.


Value

The other big takeaway is that a girl’s value fluctuates. A girl is not as beautiful when she wakes up, goes for a shit, or burps. When you see a 9, she is a 9 at that moment. I am including this as a reminder for people scared to experiment with approaching upper tiers.


Competence

Girls are girls. No matter how hot they are. Once they fall into your reality, they will depend on you for things going smoothly, and, importantly, for regulating their emotions. This is true for all girls and, more importantly so, for hotter ones.

Well, “… and the sky is blue”, some people will say with the above point. The value is in the corollary, dear reader. Because girls can’t (or don’t want) to add value to their life (the definition of competence), all the value they get from their attractiveness means jack shit. The point is not giving them value, is making it count for them. That is the way a 5 euro snack near the ocean can mean more than 5-star hotels and trips to Dubai. Make it meaningful for them. They will love you for it.



This essay explores one aspect of a larger structure. On its own, it stands, but it is not the whole model.

The book connects these pieces into a single structure: frame, value, power, escalation, calibration — not as advice, but as a theory of how the Game actually works.

If you want the complete system rather than individual essays, start here:

The Deep Structure of Game


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